Q: How can I get a Doberman with legally docked tail and cropped ears? Near UK?
I'm looking for a female Doberman puppy with a docked tail and cropped ears.
I know the law in the UK doesn't allow that, but I'm used to Dobermans looking a certain way and I'd like one like that.
Does anyone know of a breeder who does it, not far from England?
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Answer by sam_ziani
I wish I can help you mate as I know very well how you feel, what a stupid law!! the only thing I could suggest is to get a Doberman shipped from abroad and ask the breeder to dock and crop the ears. where they haven't introduced this stupid law I bet they never will.
Answer by Emma R
It's illegal and Cruel! how would you like half of your ears chopped off just because someone thinks it looks better!
disgusting.
Answer by Dave
I have a 2-year-old Doberman docked and cropped he looks great I use him for work I got him from Yorkshire.
Answer by Sal
So to those who are making stupid comments about cropped and docked you are not true dog lovers.
These puppies/dogs still need a loving home, even though we may be against the cropping and docking.
So just be happy these puppies/ dogs are taken care of rather than trying to put people off getting them.
Answer by Shane
As far as I am aware the ban of ear cropping is pretty much European wide, and the docking of tails is fast becoming a no-no too, and not without good reason!
All the garbage about the cropping of ears being beneficial for a Doberman is unproven, and to be fair, anyone saying that it looks natural is talking out of their backsides.
I don't understand why anyone would want a mutilated Dobie anyway, they are absolutely beautiful dogs if left unaltered, and regardless to what all the pro croppers/dockers say it is cruel, and painful to the dog, how in gods name can it not be?.
- How much to get a Doberman pinschers ears cropped?
- Can I crop and dock my miniature pinscher's ears and tail at 3 months?
- Is it so necessary to cut the ears of a Cane Corso?
- Why Caucasian Ovcharkas have their ears cropped short?
If that's how you want your dog to look then forget it, just get a picture to hang on your wall.
My old girl who is unfortunately no longer with me had the full tail and ears, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
The law has been in play no for some time, and I would be very surprised if you would find any reputable breeder willing to take the risk, they would have too much to lose.
And would you be willing to take the risk from a back door breeder, considering all the checks a Dobie needs to ensure that it's healthy?
Answer by Pam
Cropping is no worse than circumcising a baby boy, and cropping heals A LOT faster!
If you have one shipped in from a reputable breeder from an area where cropping & docking is still a choice, it isn't illegal to own one that is already cropped & docked.
Owned by 4 cropped/docked & one docked/natural eared Dobermans
Answer by marjorie m
There are some breeders in Ireland that are still docking the tails, though as far as I am aware not the ears. It is now incredibly hard to find a docked Dobermann puppy since the law changed in April 2007. Reputable breeders in England, Wales and Scotland will not dock. I have two Dobermans, one with a tail and one without and can honestly say that the tail only adds to how handsome he is and detracts nothing. There are mixed feelings amongst Dobermann breeders about docking, some even not breeding for the time being, but as the law is here to stay, it's something we will all have to get used to (the breed standard, judges and breeders and owners alike) Good luck finding your pup.
Answer by jules77
According to Doberman ear cropping UK laws, it is illegal to sell a Doberman with a docked tail and you could have the dog taken from you. Have never heard of a UK breeder cropping a Doberman's ears. Both practices have been banned for a reason here in the UK, unnecessary and cruel.
Answer by Joanne
It's not easy to get a cropped and docked Doberman in UK. To have a docked/cropped Doberman you would have to have it imported from another country where it is legal to dock/crop.
I have only seen one ad for imported docked but not cropped Dobermans.
you should try the American Kennel Club
but it will cost you a lot more money to get it imported compared to just getting an unaltered dog from here.
also for other posters, I don't agree with docking and cropping I'm just answering the question.
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Glow says
Why would you want to modify your dog? it's not a car.
You should accept and be proud of how your dog looks. I find this whole thing absurd. It is unkind to dock a dogs tail because all dogs use there tail as part of their communication with each other. A dog can tell if another dog is dominate, aggressive, playful etc by the way its tail is at that time, by docking it you are taking that vital part of interaction away.
Your dog doesn't care how it looks, your not doing it for any medical reasons, so why do it. It's selfish because your only doing it for one thing and thats yourself.
Wayne says
What gets under my skin with you Morons out there is tail docking is NOT cruel it is done within days of the puppy being born that don’t know any different and IF and only IF the puppy cries it is ONLY because it is taken away from its mother whilst the procedure is being done. Tell me did you have your son circumcisised? No one ever mentions anything about the pain of. microchipping, desexing etc etc and to say the dog needs a tail for goodness sake it’s not bloody Skippy the bush kangaroo and have you ever seen a dog that requires a tail removed when broken (now that is painful)! But don’t worry because all you Doo Gooder won’t be happy until there is no one left to take an interest in showing or breeding because your obviously scared that your going to get beaten by a superior dog! Maybe Dobes with tails can get on the greyhound circuit and make a few bucks because that’s what they bloody now look like! God help you idiot Doo Gooders that don’t even own a dog neverlone a Doberman!
Thanks for stuffing up a great dog that now looks absolutely ridiculous.
hollie2000_1999 says
Ear cropping isn't the 'done thing' in UK, you will not find anyone to do this unless you have it done illegally somewhere….which I'm sure you wouldn't do, anyways it's cruel and there is no need to have it done.
Lulabelle says
"Near UK" – what is that supposed to mean… you are either in the UK or you're not.
Ear docking isn't very big the UK, never has been, even when it was allowed it was mainly just tail docking…
dog-luvr says
you could proberly get a doberman with a cropped tail in the west midlands in the uk but im not too sure about ears, i would suggest you forget this idea as it is cruel
bumblebee says
Try a shelter…it may not be a pup but it would be a companion to your other dog and it would be what your looking for. I didn't know it was illegal to dock tails and ears. I guess you really do learn something new every day.
(U.S. dog owner)
Diamond says
it was banned because it was cruel
you can buy or get a dog born before the ban came in last year have a look in shelters
Dave says
Get a life Diamond.Ears and tails done on dogs at a very young age is totally fine no pain and much better for the dog.When I look at small dogs like what women carry around with them in bags is f××king stupid.Dogs are born to be free to run around and roam.Kept in doors all day then taken out for dinner in a f××king dog bag lol joke.I know off 3 dogs that have died of heatstroke because of the cloths and jackets hats socks ect that stupid women put on them just to show off to their friends lol like I said Joke.Diamond would you a female by any chance.woof woof