Hayden: Caucasian Ovcharka (Caucasian Shepherd) breeders in Australia?
Do people breed them in Australia because to import they need to be 6 months and have a quarantine, and I want one as a pup because they are easier to train. there are none in shelters or anything I've seen.
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Answer by I love my GSD!!!!
I was unable to locate an actual breeder in Australia, but there are some of them within the UK. That was as close as I could come.
Answer by INDI
Wow someone who wants a real dog.
Compliments on your choice.
Answer by jason
we have been looking for Caucasian Shepherd dogs in Australia and have found none , But there are a few scammers out there advertising pups for sale in Australia We have made inquiries about bringing one over the cost is $15000 by the time you purchase the pup all the inoculations the import costs and quarantine the pup will be 5 mths old at time of import because it has to have all its rabies shots before it can be sent over and as far as I know there are no Caucasian shepherds in Australia
Question:
$15000, how could it be? A good Caucasian Ovcharka puppy costs up to $1500, and you can buy it in the US (not always), in Europe (easily), and in Russia, of course.
Answer by jason
The puppy must have 3 months to can get the rabies vaccine, after 30 days form the vaccine, it is required a blood test. So, the puppy will have 4 months old. After this test, the dog must remain here for 6 months old, that's the procedure, after that, the dog can go to you when he will arrive in Australia, he must remain for 10 days in quarantine. All these will be costing you between 10000-15000 AUD
Answer by R Thomas
There is a set procedure for a new breed into Australia to be registered with the ANKC. It is unwise for a person not to follow this procedure before they actually import. The requirements are clearly stated in the ANKC rules and regulations on the ANKC website.
The information given re quarantine requirements for importation of a dog into Australia is subject to change and unless you follow the most up to date information you will strike big problems. This information is on the Government web site. It includes a very extensive timeline which must be followed. This is why even though we have imported a number of dogs from various countries including countries that do not fall into Categories 1,2 or 3 we suggest that people use an agent for the major details.
Answer by Gordon John
To bring a Caucasian Ovcharka into Australia:
- you first have to find out what category Country the Dog is coming from
- once you have done this you will then need to find a Breeder willing to take the Puppy to the Vets for all of the following
- The puppy requires a Rabies inoculation and at the same time has blood tests done
- it is required by the Australian Quarantine to send these bloods to them or 1 of the 5 the will only accept in the World
- then continue on with the final innoculations
- from Russia you cannot import directly to Australia - it is a Cat 4 Country by Australia Law - so you need to move the puppy to a cat 3 or higher country
- then after all the tests and Needles are done you need to get an import permit issued from Australian Government - this is when you place all of the paperwork and proof of bloods taken and needles with all signed of by a Government vet from the country the puppy is currently in
- then 24 hours out from leaving this country you have to get a Government vet to lock the crate of the puppy
- I just had a Caucasian Ovcharka come from Russia - and he was placed in Slovakia for 5 months - then he flew to Bratislava in the main capital - then over to Austria - then Doha - Then Melbourne - there are NO direct flights - so a lot of pet checks and vet checks to keep the pup safe
- Then Quarantine is only 10 days if you have completed all of the requirements for the Australian Government
- if not 2 things can happen - 1 the pup stays in Quarantine longer up to 60 days at your expense if the quarantine station has the space available or they will send the pup back to where it comes from to have the vet stuff completed'
Answer by Blue Violet
I don't think there are any in Australia. Oh, wait, apparently they're called Central Asian Shepherds over here. How odd.
Answer by Art F
It's another breed! The Caucasian Shepherd aka Caucasian Ovcharka is the most brutal Russian dog breed. It is a large, even-tempered dog with a powerful and muscular body, bear-look face, deeply set oval dark eyes, round-shaped cropped ears and low carried long tail. It has a thick and water-resistant double coat in shades of gray, brindle, yellow, rust, red or white (video). The coat may be longer or shorter depending on the region the dog comes from.
The strength and dedication of this Russian dog have made it a popular working, police and guard dog throughout Europe and the former Soviet Union states. They call it the Russian Bear Dog in America. In Russia, its name is Caucasian Ovcharka that means sheepdog in Russian.
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Dean says
https://www.dogzonline.com.au/
Jessica says
There’s another guy who’s a liar and a fraud to he’s name is Jonty from melb be careful of him he’s dogs aren’t puré bred and is a chronicall liar charges absurd
Chris says
As you’d already know as you have already spoken to this individual
I believe you know there is one that is of 5 years old here in Australia ,And many recognised breeders are aware of this dog being here are they distorting the truth aswell come on mate .Id like proof that yours are the first that’s a huge claim mate and not really the best way to get fello breeders to support your cause by being secretive an missleading .And will not do the breeding program any favours it is a mollosser breed from Georgia a land race animal they do not rely on pedergree there are a couple that can provide pedigree papers but not many.The Georgians rely on a good stable temperament healthy fit working dog that get the job done by keeping its herd alive day in day out and withstanding inhospitable conditions. As a result of good breeding practices and open minded breeders who help each other to create a healthy working livestock dog breed and maintain the best genetics available.
Minus the pissing competition that occurs now you will only bring scrutiny to this breed.what is the purposes that you intend to use them for.?attack dogs, guard dogs,livestock guardian or puppy factory for $$ I’d be confident in saying you wouldn’t be able to give a straight answer any way.
you have lost your credibility with me and many others anyway.
There is no “I” in team.
Good luck running solo
Chris says
In response to alpha force k9
There is a Caucasian with fci pedigree which has been here for over 5 years and is a fine example of the breed, you make it sound as though you are the only one in Australia with them. Well you not.I have 2 one from Georgia which is not recognised and one from Russia with colour an size that does not meet pedigree But undoubtably have brilliant genetics minus the paper work they are not show dogs there working dogs that are strong an healthy, no inter breeding or show dog lines ,and why no one advertises this Is because they will fall into the wrong hands and taint its reputation.I beleive there is a pissing competition regarding this breed .They will end up like the pit bull, with this publicity its shore to cause an up roar with other breeder.And public.Which is obviously what you are trying to achieve.
Thanks for you cooperation and help with other breeder to improve our genetics a preserve the breed for what it is a land race animal “mollosser” .not fci accredited show dogs with papers .I wonder if The dog come with paper 3 thousand years ago.
Man up an be a team player.Instead of secret squirrel business that will not benifet any one but you self.An will be a backward step for the breed with that tunnel vision like attitude .
ALPHAFORCE K9 says
Hi
There is a bit of misninformation on this. We have the first registered breeding stock in Australia and are also the breed founder in Australia. We have lodged all ANKC foundation work for approval. We currently have 2 fully registered males and 4 regsietered females all imported from overseas. These are FCI registered with export pedigrees. These are Australia’s first registered lines and we are proud of the hard work that has gone into getting them. Anyone who claims anything other than what I have is distorting the truth as you can only have 1 breed founder for the breed in Australia and I lodged all paperwork and bond for FCI and ANKC. They are a phenomenal dog and I hope to see more in the future.
Kingsley says
Hi. I would love to own one. How can I get in contact with you.
R Thomas says
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david fitzgibbon says
both these breeds are magnificent but i,ll stick with my Anatolian’s for there temperament and loyalty
Sue says
There is a Caucasian Shepherd in Australia with a registered breeder in Victoria ……. she also breeds Anatolians and Central Asians . Unlikely she will breed her Caucasian girl though .
judy says
the breeder your referring to is Takas Volkodav, the lady who owns it isn’t the easiest person to deal with and pretty arrogant.
Sue Campbell says
Sorry but I have known her for many years now beginning with rescue of Anatolians and not found this to be the case at all ?
Judy says
Maybe because you have known her for so long she doesn’t behave like that with you but my personal experience and two others I’ve spoken with are on the same page.
She thinks her way is the only way.
R Thomas says
I believe there is another person.
Kym says
Geez why do people have to get so aggressive?! I understand it’s a passion especially when it’s such an amazing breed but I myself am grateful for any and all info after looking into and trying to find breeders and elusive knowledge on how to import Caucasian Shepards to Australia. So thank you Gordon and Chris (by the way Caucasian x Tibetan sounds like an interesting, protective and beautiful cross, would love to see a pic) and everyone else who posted, been trying to figure out this puzzle for years, just an expensive and time consuming one apparently!
Adam says
Hi there to who are talking about Caucasians in australia we are currently in the process of have Caucasians in aus. Full FCI registered dogs. They are a recognized breed thanks
Belle says
Hi Adam
My hubby is so in love with breed and he wants one, Can You please keep me updated as Kym said trying to import a pup to Aus is a time consuming and expensive excercise, I would prefer to have one from pup so we can train it properly. If I could get one in Aus that would be amazing.
yours KIndly
Belle
Chris says
There’s are a couple in tassie and half a dozen on the mainland that I know of only 1 here already with fci pedigree.But if you look at the history and pedigree standards an origin there would not be a great deal that would meet that standard due to size,colour,coat length, confirmation ect the dog varies so much.
The first question Is. Why do you need a Caucasian Sheppard.
The second is why do you think this breeder in vic is hesitant on selling and discussing any thing about her dogs.Id assume that if she had some doubt about your need for the dog she may have seemed hard to deal with but its for the better some times. These dogs do not behave or respond like a normal domestic animal despite what is said caution to those who think other wise they are fearless and devoted to the mater, also deadly in the wrong hands.
Chris says
Hi Gordon john.its Chris jordan here if you have a breeding pair are they the ones you sourced from America off . Est alpha Caucasians . Or another line of imports you claim to have imported. Is your Caucasian bitch fertile I hear on the grape vine that is not the case.is this true. And another question . Why import from America it is more expensive to import from there and the cost of the dog is higher most of the time. Plus it’s from America . That would be like buying a kelpie from China why not get it from were they originates .I have a Tibetan x Caucasian. In my eyes that would be just as pure as the dogs you posses from America . Take it as an insult or a honest outlook I don’t care your claims are going to raise eye brows.20k per dog plus once it’s here if they were a true line you would have bred from them now oh wait maybe you are . But using a female tabetin. Due to your infertile Caucasian If you don’t want to sell you dogs don’t post them . It’s a tease to others and an insult to those who are passionate about Caucasian . I’d say it’s time contact people about your dogs an explain your self or .FUCK OFF . getting people hopes up with your kelpies from china
James says
Hello Chris,how you doing.I do have some few Caucasian puppies which i am willing to give out .If your still interested in getting a pair or just one do email me back at jamesfisher22yahoo.com
Yulia says
Hi there
Any more news about where to purchase a Caucasian Shepherd dog in Australia?
TIA
Regards
Tristen D says
This is a message to Gordon John. I would like to get in contact with you regarding your dogs but you seem to bve a bit of a ghost as no one can get a hold of you. id like to send some cash your way for the right pup so if you are available for contact my email is masoben(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign)gmail.com
Cheers
Adrian Dunne says
It is very difficult to import dogs from Russia, as stated above. Many breeds cannot be imported into Australia at all, particularly guard and fighting breeds, from any country. Currently the Caucasian Ovcharka is NOT a prohibited dog breed in Australia
jason says
if someone knows of some Caucasian shepherds in Australia please let me know
jason says
I will send the dog from Bulgaria, because Romania is not an allowed country.
Gordon - John says
Hi, I have been watching for sometime now and – I have had the breed in Australia for the last 4 years – I have 4 breeding pairs and they are all papered – and registered with the FCI – RKF – AKC – I have not yet registered the breed in Australia – I have only just received the last male from Russia and he is a Big Boy and young and this allows us to meet the Australian National Standard with the CCC to register the breed here.
The Bloodlines I have are very rare and were sourced from very reputable breeders in Russia -. Happy to show pictures of these and let you meet them in person at a pre arranged place and agreed place.
Peter says
Do you breed the dogs here
Am I able to buy one
Igor says
Hello Gordon-John,
Is it possible to contact you? Maybe you are on Facebook as I am in Australia and very interested in the Caucasian Ovcharka.
Regards,
Igor
Chris says
Gday Chris Jordan here. I’m interested to know how when an were the dogs entered Australia. Due to do 20 years research on the breed and breeders as far as I’m aware there is only one female Caucasian in the country if you do posses this breed why is it not advertised on dogz online or recognised or known by any mollosser breeders .our island can be used to further preserve the breed .it’s health and genetics .such a claim could really taint this breeds reputation even further down the line an future breeders genetics. mixed an matched to a so called Caucasian with a western mix .as I am going to import one myself to preserve its purpose as a guardian an Shepard .if this is a true line id be more than happy to fund purchase, import seamen and help in any
Igor says
Hi Chris,
Would be good to get intouch with yourself as I am also very interested in the breed. Let me know what is the best way to contact you.
Regards,
Igor
Chris says
Gday mate my phone 0457493214
Belle says
Hi Igor
Interested in this breed and being able to get one in Aus do u have a FB page?
Where about sin Aus are you
Yours Kindly belle
Belle says
Interested in this breed and would like to see pics do you have FB
Igor says
Look me up on Facebook Igor Shrayer. Caucasians unfortunately are not recognised here as a breed as yet. Best lines are from Russia and Ukraine. I know of very good kennels in Moscow and Ukraine as I’ve brought lines from world winners in the Black Russian Terriers and unfortunately if someone is breeding Caucasians and they are not from a top kennel in Russia than I wouldn’t waste money buying from this person. As such right now no one can prove where their dogs came from because the breed is not recognised in Australia or they at least need to show a true copy of an RKF certificate of the parents pedigree.
So please be aware as to what you are buying as this is a life stock guardian and one of the most dangerous breeds if you don’t know much about them or have the correct facilities to house them.
Gordon John says
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RussianDog says
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gary marshall says
I would like to know more about the Caucasian mountain dog. I live in victora Australia.
Russian Dog says
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Russell Cunning says
The Central Asian Shepherds are a different breed – they are also known as Alabai and are smaller dogs. Please refer to https://wp.me/p25TKd-2e and https://wp.me/p25TKd-2c for the differences. Unfortunately, many people offer the Alabai as Caucasian Shepherds, whether knowingly or not I cannot say.
david says
Hi everybody,I am from Georgia.we have a little farm of Caucasian Shepherd in Rustavi,city in Georgia,if someone realy wants caucasiann shepered contact us,we arrange everything
Michaela says
Hi David,
please send me a link to your website and tell me more about your dogs – Caucasian shepherds:
Where do you keep them – inside the house, in a cage or with sheep on a farm?
What do you feed them with?
What certificates do you have?
What is the price?
Have you got any important ways of training?
How do you organise import to Australia?
How do you get all paperwork needed, vaccinations, etc.?
How old puppy do you export?
I have contacted Australian customs with some questions as they keep changing the imports regulations quite often so hope will get some answers soon.
I am also doing a lot of research as to what country to import them from.
Thanks for your help.
Michaela
jacob says
hello David my name is Jacob I’m 17 and my mother and I want to buy a Caucasian shepherd. I don’t know how much it costs or were to start could your please email me the details about the price to get it here in Australia.